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Feb 22, 2010 17:51:27 GMT 10
Post by BQ Moderator on Feb 22, 2010 17:51:27 GMT 10
What a good thread, very interesting to read with many great points and sides to the issue. I thought it time again to remind all posters about the forum rules and history of the BQ Forum. If you have not already, please read the forum rules before posting. YES, IP addresses can be logged and tracked. To date no poster has ever been banned from the Forum. baseballqld.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forumrules&action=display&thread=1YES, a few posts have been deleted over the last year and any poster can always PM me if they wish for an explanation. The BQ Forum moderators are a collective like minded group from many clubs ( they are not Gestapo !!!). They are volunteers who no doubt spend many hours also volunteering in their own clubs and regions every weekend. I thank them all and if you as a poster wish to be another Moderator on the BQ forum, PM me anytime. Whilst this forum is good for feedback/fun/information, This forum currently has almost 200 posters, the wider QLD baseball community has many 1,000's more who may not be aware of the forum or even their own club website. If you do have any serious issues, the correct protocol is always to go back through your own Club Committee/Secretary/President to contact BQ Office.This baseball forum only exists with the blessing and branding of BQ, currently the ONLY State in Australia to do that. Constructive criticism and feedback will never be denied but openly derogatory posts against another individual or club will be removed.
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Feb 23, 2010 0:36:00 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Feb 23, 2010 0:36:00 GMT 10
Thanks for those reminders, BQ Mod.
Hey Pope, I would just like to assure you that I have only one login name on this forum and I am so involved in the administration of my club I am drowning in it. I am also, Lyn, a very busy official.
Please don't presume that everyone with an opinion on this thread is just a muckraker. I think that this issue is important and I think that BQ need to listen. I am well aware of "the vote" but as a previous poster pointed out, the majority of the teams in this comp will not be affected by the finals format and, of course, will vote to keep the status quo. The ones that will gain an advantage will also vote that way......not a very level playing field. Why does this grade have to finish their season differently than every other when the simple solution is to play their scheduled fixtures and a full round of Finals culminating on the morning of the Major Grand Finals. They would play at 9am which has been their time slot all season .... not hard.
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Feb 23, 2010 9:47:34 GMT 10
Post by justme on Feb 23, 2010 9:47:34 GMT 10
Well said Wildpitch23...
This is the place where we can have an opinion and hopefully it will be heard...
You must understand that this issue is an important one and people feel very strongly that this is unfair and unjust. This is why we have seen the emotional outrage on here over the last few days. And BQ do have a responsibility to revisit this issue. But most of all this is BQ's chance to do the right thing and resolve this issue fairly. A lot of people are waiting and watching for what the outcome will be... right or wrong... So please BQ do the right thing for all concerned...
What is important here is not GF dates or trophy presentations. What is important is that SQBL A grade have a equal and fair competition and finals series the same as every senior competition in Australia. And the suggested modified format does not deliver an equal and fair outcome. So it is BQ's responsibility to rectify it and ensure it happens correctly.
The end of the season should be about the game and competition. Not about making changes that create unfair advantages for some and disadvantages for others. This is not the in the spirit of the game...
I'm sure with foresight this won't happen again next year and that is comforting. But we must ensure the right thing is done this year too...
The only acceptable and fair to everyone solution is to play the SQBL A grade GF in the C grade timeslot before the majors... It makes sense and there is no reason that I can think off that this should not and could not happen. What reason could be good enough to create an unfair and incomplete competition? The decision must be about the "game" only...
BQ this is your opportunity to prove to everyone that the minors are just as important as everyone else and deserve a complete and fair competition... not just a shortened and unfair competition that was thrown together at the last minute with no real thought or concern for those involved.
Cmon BQ you have a responsibilty to do the right thing for us too...
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curious
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Feb 23, 2010 11:14:13 GMT 10
Post by curious on Feb 23, 2010 11:14:13 GMT 10
Can someone from BQ please explain clearly to everyone following this board, why the SQBL A grade GF can not be played on the morning of the Majors, in the usuall timeslot?
It boggles my mind trying to understand the reasons and logic behind the decision not to do this.
As a lot of people have said, it is a very simple solution. It's not rocket science.
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dj
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Feb 23, 2010 11:38:04 GMT 10
Post by dj on Feb 23, 2010 11:38:04 GMT 10
so BQ what will it be, will you change the decisson to make it far to all, like justme said this is the chance you have to make it clear that minors are important as majors. or will you decide that majors are the be all and end all and they will have the spot light to themself cause this is what if feel it is all about
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Feb 23, 2010 13:55:35 GMT 10
Post by bigtime on Feb 23, 2010 13:55:35 GMT 10
Well said wildpitch, actually I agree with most of the posts on here. Please BQ listen to the people. There is no reason why the SQBL A grade can't have a full finals series just like every other grade. I believe that filling the "major c" time slot of 9am would be a fantastic start to a great day of finals baseball. There is a high standard of baseball being played by the SQBL a grade sides and would not look out of place on the same day as the majors. This option would not affect/upset any of the teams, giving SQBL a grade a full season and 3 weeks of finals. Making the right decision would make the majors gf day a full and exciting day! Please BQ lets do the right thing and make a spectacle for true baseball fans to see!
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curious
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Feb 23, 2010 14:05:15 GMT 10
Post by curious on Feb 23, 2010 14:05:15 GMT 10
bigtime.....you hit the nail on the head.
I believe that just from reading your post BQ should have their decision made. This is the sentiment of all the players I believe.
It would be a great way to start the majors GF day.
BQ, PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR MEMBERS AND USE SOME COMMON SENSE!!
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dj
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Feb 23, 2010 14:20:54 GMT 10
Post by dj on Feb 23, 2010 14:20:54 GMT 10
Make grandfinale day a spectacular day. give SQBL A play there finale where they should there is no logical reason why this won't work. so if there is no reason stated as to why we can't hold our finales at the same location at 900 in the morning, then let it happen.
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curious
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Feb 23, 2010 18:09:15 GMT 10
Post by curious on Feb 23, 2010 18:09:15 GMT 10
Why is no one from BQ making a comment on this issue?
Why are they not answering our questions? Is it because they realise the mistake and are feeling sheepish?
We don't care, we just want a clear explanation as to why, a logical solution has not been used.
If they can't explain that.........then there is no hope for anyone involved in baseball.
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Feb 23, 2010 19:37:05 GMT 10
Post by pope on Feb 23, 2010 19:37:05 GMT 10
Why is no one from BQ making a comment on this issue? Maybe this will answer your question A4: The BQ Forum was designed by 1 Volunteer, it was never intended to be the ultimate resource for Club and Rule issues. The best source of information is to go through your Club committee and contact BQ direct for the most up-to-date information. There are a few occasions that BQ have responded direct on the forum, however as the BQ Forum is so new and so few members, the best communications are via your own club committee first and BQ direct by phone and email. so email or call BQ directly.
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Feb 23, 2010 21:23:42 GMT 10
Post by justme on Feb 23, 2010 21:23:42 GMT 10
Thanks for your input Pope...
But I don't think BQ really want everyone on this forum calling them direct. Mate that is just not constructive advice.... That process should be left to club officials.
I did however note that you didn't offer much debate on this issue... Would that be because you know this is wrong... and what we all are saying here is right...
Anyone who reads this forum knows what we are saying is right. That is why there has been no reasonable debate. This forum has been one sided because there is no sensible arguement that can outweigh what is right.
How would a team placed 4 or 5 feel if they won... knowing they only got there becuse some dodgy decision gave them an unfair unearned advantage... would they really be able to hold their heads up high and call themselves champions... no they would have had a helping hand by a dodgy decision...
This is wrong everyone knows it and BQ do have a responsibility to do what is right.
BQ please don't let the 2009/2010 SQBL A grade season be remembered for controversy... Let it be remembered for good baseball...
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Feb 23, 2010 22:53:25 GMT 10
Post by homerun on Feb 23, 2010 22:53:25 GMT 10
Have looked at many other state baseball websites to see if they have as much disharmony. This one wins hands down for controversy.
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Feb 23, 2010 23:15:32 GMT 10
Post by justme on Feb 23, 2010 23:15:32 GMT 10
Homerun you are correct...
This time of year we should be talking about great baseball.
Not a shameful controversy like this...
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Feb 24, 2010 6:07:28 GMT 10
Post by pope on Feb 24, 2010 6:07:28 GMT 10
Thanks for your input Pope... But I don't think BQ really want everyone on this forum calling them direct. Mate that is just not constructive advice.... That process should be left to club officials. Of course they don't want players contacting them directly, but if you want answers/change and aren't getting them here or through your club officials, go straight to the top. I did however note that you didn't offer much debate on this issue... Would that be because you know this is wrong... and what we all are saying here is right... Actually I think you will find it is because I really don't care how your finals are played Anyone who reads this forum knows what we are saying is right. That is why there has been no reasonable debate. This forum has been one sided because there is no sensible arguement that can outweigh what is right. Again I think most people really don't care. Almost 200 people on the forum and less then 10% posting on the subject. I'll tell you though they are all having a good laugh about it How would a team placed 4 or 5 feel if they won... knowing they only got there becuse some dodgy decision gave them an unfair unearned advantage... would they really be able to hold their heads up high and call themselves champions... no they would have had a helping hand by a dodgy decision... Again I am sure they really don't care. They will have their dust collectors, and their club will also have a trophy for thier cabinet. And plenty of stories to tell at their local on how they won it from 4 or 5 This is wrong everyone knows it and BQ do have a responsibility to do what is right. BQ please don't let the 2009/2010 SQBL A grade season be remembered for controversy... As I said contact them direct, email works for me But don't leave it to late or the finals will have come and gone.......
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Feb 24, 2010 6:30:04 GMT 10
Post by bigtime on Feb 24, 2010 6:30:04 GMT 10
Pope, if "no one really cares" then there is no reason that the right thing by the SQBL a grade can't be done! A 3 week finals series....... "No one cares"as you say. So "no one will really care" if we have a 3 week finals series. Your comment of that there are 200 members and less than 10% percent are posting on this subject. I'm sure that that most of these people have no idea about what's happening in the minors forum. The only people that are laughing are clowns like you and the rest of your buddies. No wonder baseball has dwindled in this state!
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