|
Minors
Sept 28, 2009 15:41:26 GMT 10
Post by justme on Sept 28, 2009 15:41:26 GMT 10
Ahhh and who said there was no passion in the minors...
|
|
|
Minors
Sept 29, 2009 17:31:32 GMT 10
Post by madmax on Sept 29, 2009 17:31:32 GMT 10
it's this rigidity in minors baseball that makes it so frustrating. remember, clubs are run by volunteers and amateurs so let's cut them some slack. so what if you haven't been timely in registering a team? it's not the end of the world though some seem to give the impression that if you're 3 days late you should be crucified!
why can't a draw be done for 3 weeks for the clubs that got in on time? it can be amended for any late additions. a computer does the draw anyway (or should) so it's only the press of a button so what's the big deal?
I would prefer it if another 20 teams joined the minors so I can play in varied locations against different opponents. the more the merrier! we want loads of guys (and girls) playing baseball and these die-hard supporters should be accomodated where possible.
too many people with a "that's the rule so stuff 'em" mentality instead of being flexible to achieve the best results.
looking at some of the results, the draw is going to have to be re-done anyway as there seems to be a clear disparity in playing strength by some teams and some will be promoted and some demoted, probably by choice.
|
|
curious
Rookie Ball Player
Posts: 8
|
Minors
Oct 11, 2009 16:12:37 GMT 10
Post by curious on Oct 11, 2009 16:12:37 GMT 10
Has it been decided, what the structure and dates of the SQBL A grade comp finals will be?
|
|
|
Minors
Nov 9, 2009 23:12:48 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Nov 9, 2009 23:12:48 GMT 10
Popped into Carina Red Sox tonight to watch some of the GBL Masters in action and really enjoyed myself. The games that I saw were played in great spirit with lots of laughs and sportsmanship. This is a great attempt from BQ to broaden the scope of our sport in SEQ and every club should think about trying to get a team of over 35s into it next season.
Congrats to Carina who had worked hard all afternoon to have the fields playable after quite a bit of rain....it looked terrific.
Saw a 64year old mixing it with the "young blokes" tonight. He made a great play at second and even managed to steal a couple of bases. Is there anyone currently playing in SEQ that is more senior to this guy?
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 17, 2010 23:22:59 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Feb 17, 2010 23:22:59 GMT 10
I find it very interesting to re-read the post from "Curious" made in October. No surprises that the Finals Format for SQBL A Grade were justed posted on the BQ website with just over three weeks remaining in the season.
It has taken them this long to come to the conclusion that, because of the uneven draws due to different numbers in each comp, the A Grade will have to have its finals restricted to two weeks... 1 v 4, 2 v 3, winners of each play off the following week. What is this...Little League?? These are Senior players paying full fees and they deserve a full round of Finals to properly end their season. BQ sent an email to give teams the option of cutting their fixtures short by a week to accomodate three weeks of finals, or play only two.
With this format, there is no advantage to earning the right to be Minor Premiers (currently being fought hard for between a couple of teams with finals spots in mind). We have been told that the reason the SQBL Finals are a week earlier is because nobody from BQ would be available the following week to present trophies. Guess what? We don't care where the trophy comes from but we feel that we should play as full a season as the Majors!!!
Does anyone else care about this???
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 18, 2010 17:44:03 GMT 10
Post by 44 on Feb 18, 2010 17:44:03 GMT 10
I find it very interesting to re-read the post from "Curious" made in October. No surprises that the Finals Format for SQBL A Grade were justed posted on the BQ website with just over three weeks remaining in the season. It has taken them this long to come to the conclusion that, because of the uneven draws due to different numbers in each comp, the A Grade will have to have its finals restricted to two weeks... 1 v 4, 2 v 3, winners of each play off the following week. What is this...Little League?? These are Senior players paying full fees and they deserve a full round of Finals to properly end their season. BQ sent an email to give teams the option of cutting their fixtures short by a week to accomodate three weeks of finals, or play only two. With this format, there is no advantage to earning the right to be Minor Premiers (currently being fought hard for between a couple of teams with finals spots in mind). We have been told that the reason the SQBL Finals are a week earlier is because nobody from BQ would be available the following week to present trophies. Guess what? We don't care where the trophy comes from but we feel that we should play as full a season as the Majors!!! Does anyone else care about this??? My opinion is that the SQBL A-B-C Grand Finals should all be at the same Venue the same day for presentations and atmosphere. SQBL"A" should be 3 week finals (double elimination) for teams 1 and 2, so scrap the last fixture round for teams playing for final berths or squeeze it in mid week if it affects the final 4 placings.
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 19, 2010 19:24:26 GMT 10
Post by justme on Feb 19, 2010 19:24:26 GMT 10
I agree with Wildpitch23. This is an absolute disgrace. BQ should be ashamed of themselves. The BQ by-laws 3.53 clearly state that the format for the finals is "semi final, preliminary final and grand final". To make any changes to the draw that was released in September or to the by-laws at this late stage of the competition is unacceptable and an insult to all invloved. In all my years playing baseball I have not witnessed anything so absurd... This gives some teams a clear unfair advantage that is unearned. And teams that have worked hard all year to earn the advantage of a minor premiership have been robbed.... All because of who will hand out the trophy... The only word I can find is DISGRACEFUL... Maybe BQ should understand that the people in the minors should have the same importance and respect given to the majors. We pay our money and work hard and are actually the backbone of the sport that the elite enjoy. It's issues like this that drive people away from our sport and BQ have a responsiblity as the custodians of "OUR" sport to ensure we grow baseball participation rather than drive people away disillusioned. In a year that has seen BQ have to modify competitions due to shrinking senior numbers and lack of talent, maybe BQ should take some stock and see why. It is ridiculous decisions like this that leave a bad taste in peoples mouths... BQ this is a disgrace...
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 19, 2010 20:52:55 GMT 10
Post by helixiroffen on Feb 19, 2010 20:52:55 GMT 10
Here here!
As a SQBL player who has worked, and seen my team work, hard to position ourselves at the pointy end of the ladder I feel pretty disappointed at the way BQ has seen fit to organise 'our' finals series, which has effectively negated all that hard work. I'm even further disappointed to hear that the reason for this is so that that a BQ representative who I've never met, whose name/face I won't recognise, and who I will promptly forget afterwards can hand me/my team a trophy should we make the finals.
I'm with you 'Justme' and 'Wildpitch23'. So get real BQ, and give us the finals series we deserve - a 3 week series that rewards the teams who have worked hard to earn those top 2 positions.
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 19, 2010 21:54:18 GMT 10
Post by farqueue on Feb 19, 2010 21:54:18 GMT 10
what an absolute joke BQ, check your egos at the door....nobody to present the trophy???a crappy dust collector that serves as nothing more than a door stop come april for those clubs lucky enough to have something to hang from a set of rusty hinges.anybody who truly loves the game,and truly played the game with any conviction knows that its the blood sweat and beers that embody a memorable season, a moment in time. if sporting associations were susceptible to any form of darwinian logic,baseball in brisbane wouldve been well and truly dead and buried if not for the committed majority who comprise the 'minors'.....the same people who prepare the fields,coach the future 'major' players, umpire and placate egos (ie has-beens),write the submissions,spearhead recruitment drives-the list goes on....give the good guys a break and remind the top dogs why they're afforded such esteem
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 20, 2010 8:42:39 GMT 10
Post by snoball on Feb 20, 2010 8:42:39 GMT 10
BQ -- I'm happy to be the BQ rep to "hand out the trophies" after the Finals -- I'll even put on beers for all. BQI has been doing things like this for 30 years, why would we think it would ever be any different. Typical.
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 20, 2010 21:56:10 GMT 10
Post by bigtime on Feb 20, 2010 21:56:10 GMT 10
Well said Justme! As a player in SQBL a grade it is extremely disheartening to have our league played with like a yoyo. Its a disgrace. There is no reason why there shouldn't be a 3 week finals system. Ramsfan44 has the right idea. Maybe BQ should get off their high horse and listen to what the people are saying. The teams the that have worked hard to get where they are shouldn't be punished. I can't believe that these changes are being implemented so a BQ representitive can present the trophy? Just so ego maniacs can get their jollies..... What a joke!This is the second decision this season that BQ has made that has upset/annoyed people. Majors would never be put through the rubbish the SQBL leagues have had to endure this season. We pay our fees just the same as they do. Fair go BQ! No wonder baseball numbers are dwindling!
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 21, 2010 9:53:14 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Feb 21, 2010 9:53:14 GMT 10
Apparently, the trophy presentation comment was not serious so we must take that as it is.
The real reason BQ wants to have the SQBL Final on a week earlier is to give them their own moment of glory. This is an admirable sentiment but I think that most players would rather have a full season. There is no reason why SQBL A Grade (really formerly Major C) could not be played as a curtain raiser for the Majors Grand Finals (at 9am) given that it is their season that is cut short. This would make the Majors Finals day a much bigger deal and bring more people to watch.
Even though I'm involved with the SQBL, most of us would laugh when BQ says they want our comp to play finals on a seperate day to encourage spectators. The guys and girls that play in the lower grades will be supported by the usual people that go to their games. The people that watch the Majors each week will be going to the Majors Preliminary Finals on that day...not the SQBL.
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 21, 2010 9:56:00 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Feb 21, 2010 9:56:00 GMT 10
SQBL B and C Grade (and I'm involved with teams from both grades) won't, in my opinion, care if the A Grade is played the following week before the Majors. The fixtures are so spread out through the season, that these teams never see each other anyway.
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 21, 2010 14:32:39 GMT 10
Post by T on Feb 21, 2010 14:32:39 GMT 10
Majors would never be put through the rubbish the SQBL leagues have had to endure this season. We pay our fees just the same as they do. Point taken about the minors, but are you talking about those Majors who only count half the season?
|
|
|
Minors
Feb 21, 2010 17:31:29 GMT 10
Post by 44 on Feb 21, 2010 17:31:29 GMT 10
WP23 said
This might be the most logical answer so far from WP23.
I don't agree with those of you who say this is BQ grandstanding or picking on the "minors", have a deep breathe people and relax. We are a small sport and all of us as club and region volunteers need to keep supporting and nurturing the sport. Rants against BQ without constructive critique to back up your argument and some positive input are pointless.
These finals should be given the due respect they deserve for the season BQ finals. I can see the logistical need for 2 Grand Finals days over 2 weekends. Maybe SQBL B+C weekend 1 and then a big day at 1 venue SQBL A-Major B-Major A following weekend. Transplant the SQBL A ( old Major C ) into the Majors finals day for a big event and fan support.
In speaking with a few SQBL A players today from a team in 1 or 2 contention, they don't really care, just win the semi and play in the GF, however it does seem unfair to me that team 3 and 4 can get an easy ride to the GF with the 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 format. It should be the 3 week format as I have already stated in my opinion. Team 1 and 2 have done all the hard yakka all season and deserve a double elimination berth.
|
|