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Post by snoball on Jan 13, 2010 18:52:14 GMT 10
ramsrus -- Couldn't agree more. A lot of past U14 and U16 fringe players have developed into top quality U18's -- signed or on US scholarships. Let's give them an opportunity earlier and see if they develop faster.
Coaches and selectors do what they can to identify the best players available in each age group. But, they're not perfect and some kids aren't recognised for one reason or another. Let's expand our base and give more players the opportunity to play at a higher level.
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Post by buddy on Jan 13, 2010 19:15:31 GMT 10
The 14s won 14-1 today with the whole team finally showing what they have always been capable of. The scores and results so far are not a true indication of thier skill and the excellent training they have been given. We gave the two top teams the best competition they have had so far with a close finish against WA and we held on to the giants from Vic Blue until the 5th innings (I think the first time they didnt win by mercy rule).
The boys who made the squad but not the final team would have made a very competitive team and could easily have matched it against most of the other teams in the tournament and definitely against Vic White.
At that age some kids develop early and some, with heaps of potential, a little later (VIC seem to have recognised this in thier two teams). They should all have the same opportunity to compete at this level in thier age group. Perhaps we wouldnt then lose so many when they get older. Would have been a great opportunity with the tournament being played in QLD.
Next few days should see our boys show how good they really are. I overheard the tournament organisers saying that they are the most diciplined and well behaved team in camp - Go Rams
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Post by calendar on Jan 14, 2010 20:10:32 GMT 10
Jake Price, Pine Rivers, is playing for Territories U18.
If the Territories need players, they contact the associations from the other states.
When they contact the "associations", who decides which players are to be included in the Territory side and what criteria do they use to select the players
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Post by snoball on Jan 14, 2010 20:26:43 GMT 10
In the past it's been done by the head coach of the Qld team in that age group. I'm not sure who does it now. Shadow players are the ones sent to the other states.
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Post by homerun on Jan 15, 2010 14:00:27 GMT 10
2 x u14 teams should be sent. The "better" team may look good on paper but may not perform as expected. I have seen exactly this happen. The "wildcard" team knowing it is the underdog team becomes extremely motivated to prove itself. If there are kids who are committed and of the standard, then let them have a crack. Secondly, if the Territories need players, then why does it have to go through the selector's channels? Why don't they have Territory selectors organize a trial and selection day? There would be many takers.
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Post by snoball on Jan 15, 2010 15:54:59 GMT 10
if the Territories need players, then why does it have to go through the selector's channels? Why don't they have Territory selectors organize a trial and selection day?
I think the officials from the Territories are assuming that the Qld selectors have a pretty good grip on the standard of the Qld players. They have been working with the shadow players (these are the players usually selected to play for the Territories) and probably know their strengths and weaknesses best.
I don't see the value in the Territory selectors going to each state to see their shadow players. Lots of money and time spent when that knowledge is already held by the coaches of each state team.
I think you might be suggesting that the Territories hold open tryouts in each state to select 1 or 2 players. That way those overlooked for Qld selection might have a shot with another state?? Again, I don't think that's economical.
Also, it's not as if, "I didn't make the Qld team, but I would have a chance at the Territories team." The players on the Territories team are pretty good players. A number, in the past, have gone on to play in the US (College) and/or have signed professionally. They might be short of players, but their top 10 or 12 are very, very competent.
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Post by homerun on Jan 15, 2010 22:52:05 GMT 10
Darwin to Brisbane airfare= $249 winning at nationals= priceless
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Post by buddy on Jan 15, 2010 23:16:55 GMT 10
U14 Rams beat NSW Country tonight 6-0 following a heartbreaking 13-14 loss to NSW yesterday after leading 13-9 into the 6th.
Playing WA in the finals for 3rd place at 3.30pm tomorrow
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Post by 44 on Jan 16, 2010 11:07:28 GMT 10
I'll be there buddy. WA will be tough to beat after finishing equal 1st but it seems the baby rams have been improving all week.
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Post by calendar on Jan 17, 2010 5:56:17 GMT 10
As far as I know there were no shadows named for Under 16's, or is it just the remainder of the squad who missed out on team selection automatically become shadows? Does it then become a matter of parents contacting coaches to put their childs name forward and pushing their case??
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Post by babe on Jan 19, 2010 22:29:12 GMT 10
The individual stats for U14's are on the ABF website. Do selectors look at these when next selections take place?
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Post by oldmate on Jan 20, 2010 17:55:44 GMT 10
No not really, the players are a year older by then, they might of physically changed, gotten stronger etc, gone up to the next age group
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Post by babe on Jan 20, 2010 22:30:51 GMT 10
I think the stats are invaluable. they really provide a great insight as to where the strengths and weaknesses lie and what needs to be done to better prepare for next time.
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Post by oldmate on Jan 21, 2010 6:30:03 GMT 10
If thats the case then there are only about 5 players who would be looked at for next year as nobody else performed well enough
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Post by babe on Jan 25, 2010 0:37:07 GMT 10
Having looked at the stats, it is clear that U14's batting was the weak point. The focus needs to be batting. Victoria could have won on batting alone even without their superb fielding and pitching. 1 player in the top 10 for batting tells where the work needs to be done.
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