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Post by snoball on Mar 27, 2009 17:49:54 GMT 10
************* I don't think splitting the league would automatically make teams in either league 'stronger' per se. But it would mean teams were playing teams at their level every week, which can only make for a lot more interesting and even comp.
Or would you rather watch the same few clubs keep getting rolled by 20 runs twice a week? *********************
teabag -- That didn't happen this season. But, why let the facts get in the way of a good argument? Strange enough, though, 9 teams gave up 14 runs or more in a loss, with Mudgee winning that stat --allowing 22 runs in a loss. Padres, All Stars, Demons and Pine Hills all gave up 20 runs in a loss. Says a lot about the quality of pitching. No one, though lost by 20 runs and certainly not twice in one week.
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Post by snoball on Mar 29, 2009 21:56:08 GMT 10
I was thinking about the two divisions (Major and Div 1) structure. Perhaps those clubs that don't meet the existing Major League criteria at the beginning of the season (remember this season was postponed a couple of weeks to give those not meeting the criteria more time) be relegated to Div 1. It could be one year there are 8 teams in Majors, in another year 12, depending on how many meet the existing or subsequent criteria. For season games, play teams in both your division and the lower/upper division teams. == for example, look at each Major League team playing all Major teams 4(?) times and playing each Div 1 team once(?) -- or whatever the formula would be to give you 45 games. This is a very rough draft, and would be tidied up.
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Post by puff on Mar 30, 2009 4:26:27 GMT 10
The big plus for this new format that is being talked about is that there would be 2 divisions with teams of fairly equal ability competing against each other wheras at the moment if you were to relegate a club that doesnt meet criteria it is a quantum drop back to division 1 as it is at the moment.
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Post by 44 on Mar 30, 2009 13:11:59 GMT 10
How about all clubs are invited to apply for one of the Premier League 8 Team positions. ( or at Most, 10 Team Premier A+B) Top 8 selected as per completely transparent process are to submit a minimum squad of 24 Players that will compete in the Premier A+B comp. Each of those clubs must also have at least also one team in either Division 1 or Division 2. Or they can have 6 graded teams as is the case now for a few clubs. To qualify for Premier League a club MUST also make a very strict Juniors Criteria by the set date. .
So you have: 8 Team Premier A+B 8 Team Division 1 A+B and whatever numbers left to make up Division 2 A+B.
Maybe Market it as Majors, AAA , AA .
Relegate/Promote either 1 or 2 teams each season based on A Team results between the 3 divisions that play in the GF's ( assuming they are from a different club ) Based on this Rangers would have been promoted to Premier league assuming they made Juniors criteria otherwise the option goes to the next team lower than them and so on.
It's not Rocket science ( Juniors Criteria+ Being in GF = Promotion ). If it's all transparent, no clubs have any right to whine to BQ it's unfair. The main thing is be inclusive and build up all clubs Juniors as much as possible and create a Premier League that people might eventually just pay to watch if the standard was high enough.
A set 8 team comp for top 2 divisions would make a lot more scheduling sense and avoid all those messy Byes.
Relegation/promotion would make end of season playoffs a lot more exciting. I can't see any Club saying this system would be unfair, it's open to all clubs to play Premier if they wish to strive for it.
The 8 Team Premier ( or 10 ) would certainly be a much stronger comp. than 13 as it was last season. Melbourne has a Top Level 10 team League, Sydney has 11 and SE QLD had 13 with a much lower population demographics. That does not compute........
No club should be embedded by rights or Location or History into the Premier League eternally , each club should re-apply every season or be promoted/relegated by the open process.
As Homer has pointed out some posts ago. Initially all 15 Clubs could play round robin first to establish the top 8 or 10 to start with, then the 8 team system will start from post Xmas 2009 and no more need for cross divisional play after that.
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Post by snoochies on Mar 30, 2009 16:07:21 GMT 10
Play the game in winter, more people will play.
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Post by 44 on Mar 30, 2009 17:49:19 GMT 10
Play the game in winter, more people will play. Baseball in Brisbane would lose 75% + of the Juniors to the various football codes if that ever happened. Baseball is and always will be a summer sport snoochies. Winter baseball is for junior development and social adult baseball if you can get enough interest for a League.
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Post by pope on Mar 30, 2009 18:48:34 GMT 10
Play the game in winter, more people will play. Baseball in Brisbane would lose 75% + of the Juniors to the various football codes if that ever happened. Baseball is and always will be a summer sport snoochies. Winter baseball is for junior development and social adult baseball if you can get enough interest for a League. Exactly right with juniors. We even start to lose some in the last few weeks of the season when footy training starts. Snoochies (and any one else that is interested) if you are really keen to play winter ball, the gold coast has a winter comp, with A B and C grades and masters div 1 and 2. If you want more info PM me and I will let you know
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Post by number85 on Mar 30, 2009 19:09:42 GMT 10
ramsfan44.........the competition structure that you propose is the same structure that was in place 12-13 years ago. All clubs played each other once before the christmas break, I think back then there were 12 clubs, it was then split into two seperate competitions Majors and Div 1, each played their own final series.
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Post by snoochies on Mar 31, 2009 12:21:57 GMT 10
Senior in Winter, Juniors in Summer. I don't think you'll lose too many seniors to Football but Gurantee you that you'll create interest from Senior Cricketers.
People are realising that there is a better life on a Sunday than standing around in 35 degree heat all day. Once they have tasted the good life, they'll never be back:)
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Post by BQ Moderator on Apr 1, 2009 17:26:23 GMT 10
No more conjecture but fact:
Next years GBL will start with 15 Clubs playing each other once in Round Robin within 8 Weeks at season start for Grading rounds.
Top 8 go through to the Majors (Both their A+B Teams) To make the top 8 Majors strict Juniors criteria must be met also.
Bottom 7 form the Pacific League (Both their A+B Teams)
No more north/south.
Each of the 15 is also required to have at least a 3rd Team in a Minor division also.
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Post by 44 on Apr 1, 2009 19:00:57 GMT 10
Is this official?? I am looking at the date on that post... It's the real deal Teebag. Already sent out to every Club Secretary. It seems a great GBL Initiative to me and Kudos to the BQ Board.
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Post by longy on Apr 1, 2009 19:56:26 GMT 10
Yeah they even have put out a draw....probably the fairest way to do it and it gives everyone a chance to pull their socks up before 1st October. Great job BQ
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Post by homer on Apr 3, 2009 9:30:16 GMT 10
Here's one for the restructure of the league. I originally put this in another area, but decided to copy and paste it here. Let's restructure how we treat our players and develop pitchers.
I believe that last Friday and Sunday Morriss and Bates threw a total of 325 pitches and then Morriss followed up with about 120 last night. Staatz from Redlands nearly always threw over 140. Let's protect our pitchers!!! What are the thoughts about pitch restrictions on all seniors? MLB starting pitchers don't go much over 100 pitches in a game, then get 4 days rest. Are we going to burn our best and then have to rely on Imports or juniors?
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Post by snoochies on Apr 3, 2009 12:05:12 GMT 10
Here's one for the restructure of the league. I originally put this in another area, but decided to copy and paste it here. Let's restructure how we treat our players and develop pitchers. I believe that last Friday and Sunday Morriss and Bates threw a total of 325 pitches and then Morriss followed up with about 120 last night. Staatz from Redlands nearly always threw over 140. Let's protect our pitchers!!! What are the thoughts about pitch restrictions on all seniors? MLB starting pitchers don't go much over 100 pitches in a game, then get 4 days rest. Are we going to burn our best and then have to rely on Imports or juniors? Makes a good argument for less teams and not more. Imagine less teams with more quality players, would be fantastic. I think that's the way it used to be and people actually turned up to watch. I remember back in Ipswich at the old field, the crowds that would turn up and watch on the hill. Them were the days:)
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Post by JRA Qld2 on Apr 4, 2009 10:00:58 GMT 10
C-Grade is going to be an optional division, you either field your 3rd team in C's or what used to be div a's
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