homer
Little Leaguer
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Post by homer on Mar 30, 2010 14:59:50 GMT 10
After reading the bylaws and the posts about the DH, should the GBL remove the DH from the competition? Or should bylaw 3.30 be removed? What are the thoughts on the DH virtually playing in two grades?
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Post by 44 on Mar 30, 2010 15:27:43 GMT 10
Keep the DH as optional in Major QMBL / PBL A's only and scrap it entirely from B down in my opinion.
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Post by bronco on Mar 30, 2010 15:45:19 GMT 10
The DH is optional and I think it should stay.
By-law 3.30 is there so the A Grade coach can use a B Grader to DH rather than having to have 10 fresh players which can be difficult in clubs with struggling numbers. He still has 9 fresh players in the starting field which is the issue in the other posts. This has been going on for a very long time without hassles.
I thought it was simple as if you are in the starting 9 for A Grade you cannot participate in B Grade. Thats the way I have played it for the last 25 + years.
Unless BQ can clarify that you can or cannot DH B Grade then start in the field for A Grade then, yes get rid of rule 3.30 and count the DH as a fresh player of get rid of the DH.
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Post by bronco on Mar 30, 2010 15:50:01 GMT 10
44, optional in A Grade and not allowed in other grades is the easy way out and would definately solve this problem. BUT I still think if the rule is clarified it give all teams an option to use the DH as it has been for a long time.
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Post by williemays_hays on Mar 30, 2010 16:02:21 GMT 10
How about have the DH in the Major League and make the pitchers hit for themselves in the Pacific League? It works ok in that U.S pro league thingie.
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Post by wildpitch23 on Mar 30, 2010 16:27:19 GMT 10
Willie...do you mean Pacific League or South Queensland League???
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Post by 44 on Mar 30, 2010 16:33:34 GMT 10
I am anti DH personally, prefer National League MLB but this is the Brisbane League.
But I can see a good purpose in Brisbane Leagues for the optional DH in Major A's ( protecting signed players from over use and giving up and coming young players more game time at the higher level)
In Juniors : NO DH EVER
In SQBL : No DH. most of the good pitchers in these levels are usually the better batters anyway and team numbers are most often a bare 9. I don't know anyone in SQBL Leagues that does not want to bat for themself.
In MAJOR B. : I would prefer no DH, but jury still out on the value of it.
In MAJOR A. : YES. DH is optional for our Brisbane League
I take Broncos point on the other post and he is 100% correct. A Major A player should not be allowed to DH in B grade same game day.
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Post by wildpitch23 on Mar 31, 2010 9:10:41 GMT 10
44...re SQBL. I can only presume that you don't have much to do with this League. In the B Grade, Indians, Red Sox, Southern Stars and Windsor all used a DH when we played them. One team regularly had 14 or 15 on their line up, another 12 or 13 and most usually had at least one or two on the bench.
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Post by justme on Mar 31, 2010 11:47:58 GMT 10
I agree with Wildpitch23.
The DH rule should stay. It is and has been a rule of baseball for many years without any real problems...
Teams and coaches will manipulate any by-law to suit their own agenda if given the chance.
The best way to stop this is make make the by-laws very clear so they canot be manipulated by different interpretations or mis-used. Don't just remove the rule...
I know that quite often in the lower grades the DH rule is used to involve 10 players in a game where a team has many... It is used to enable participation...
Particularly in the minors where they are timed games it becomes a great tool to get more players involved in the game.
DH rule should stay... It is a good rule and adds to the game... If anything just tidy up the by-laws so it is used as it is intended...
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Post by 44 on Mar 31, 2010 15:52:01 GMT 10
44...re SQBL. I can only presume that you don't have much to do with this League. In the B Grade, Indians, Red Sox, Southern Stars and Windsor all used a DH when we played them. One team regularly had 14 or 15 on their line up, another 12 or 13 and most usually had at least one or two on the bench. Touche' WP23 Obviously I don't get out much to SQBL games !! |
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Post by snoball on Mar 31, 2010 16:22:34 GMT 10
I can't think of any amateur league in the world that doesn't use the DH and can't see any reason not to use it.
I'd much rather we looked at getting away from timed games -- baseball has never been intended to be a game governed by a clock -- allow enough time for each game to finish its due number of innings. 7 inning game for all divisions and grades, U16 and upwards.
I know, I know....this is very radical thinking.
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Post by JRA Qld2 on Mar 31, 2010 21:11:13 GMT 10
You'll get shot for saying such things snoball  even if I agree... |
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Post by wildpitch23 on Mar 31, 2010 23:31:16 GMT 10
44......you don't know what you're missing! I'd love to see you out there...what about Masters (Carina are running a winter comp) ??
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Post by 44 on Apr 1, 2010 20:24:32 GMT 10
44......you don't know what you're missing! I'd love to see you out there...what about Masters (Carina are running a winter comp) ?? I just wonder why it's called "Masters" when it should be called " Old F@%ts" league with a bunch of old blokes who cannot run anymore WP23.... LOL.. PC correct I guess. Anyway: The main Original Post was raised by Bronco and I believe he is 100% on the money. After reading the comments here, keep DH in seniors but fixing the loophole in the BQ By-Laws is the answer. It is good to see some positive forward thinking ideas and response on the BQ forum rather than just the negative. |
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