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Dipping
Oct 15, 2009 17:50:48 GMT 10
Post by aussiemum on Oct 15, 2009 17:50:48 GMT 10
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Dipping
Oct 15, 2009 20:31:40 GMT 10
Post by QBUA on Oct 15, 2009 20:31:40 GMT 10
nothing like seeing a young kid slide headfirst into 3rd swallowing there chew and throwing up everywhere...no one cares if you dip or not, just be appropriate, play well and play hard and no one will care what you do. I assume that you also think that fighting, abusing, swearing, rioting and other things are a good things too, as long as you play hard and play well.
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Dipping
Oct 15, 2009 20:32:58 GMT 10
Post by QBUA on Oct 15, 2009 20:32:58 GMT 10
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Dipping
Oct 15, 2009 22:15:36 GMT 10
Post by T on Oct 15, 2009 22:15:36 GMT 10
Good talk guys, but I made the thread to find out what makes people think 'I should start doing this' kind of thing
I don't (and won't) do it because I think it's foul, not because of any of the cancer stuff.
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Dipping
Oct 16, 2009 16:18:13 GMT 10
Post by theriv on Oct 16, 2009 16:18:13 GMT 10
being appropriate may be getting rid of tobacco altogether like the rules say. or banning the players who use it for life. hmmm i wonder how our claxton shield team would do..
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Dipping
Nov 30, 2009 13:00:58 GMT 10
Post by wilderness on Nov 30, 2009 13:00:58 GMT 10
Bottom line is ... spitting alone is disgusting. I thought that BQ had rules relating to infectious diseases because fluid transfer is the most common form of infection transfer. Doesn't matter whether you spit in the dugout, on the field, lined up for the canteen or in the car-park, those around you will not get healther because you spit!!!
I have enough trouble trying to control young kids spitting seed shells onto eachother let alone giving them another reason to work up a gob full of spit and share it with the world.
Get rid of it all I say!!!
Spitting isn't unique to baseball, I see it all the time in youth football and I'm not surprised when you watch an NRL game on TV where you see players take out their mouth guard and toss out a lugie. I feel like marking that spot on the ground with a white chalk outline and saying to the players ... "don't get tackled here". It's just as disgusting there.
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Dipping
Nov 30, 2009 16:04:06 GMT 10
Post by 44 on Nov 30, 2009 16:04:06 GMT 10
Bottom line is ... spitting alone is disgusting. I thought that BQ had rules relating to infectious diseases because fluid transfer is the most common form of infection transfer. Doesn't matter whether you spit in the dugout, on the field, lined up for the canteen or in the car-park, those around you will not get healther because you spit!!! I have enough trouble trying to control young kids spitting seed shells onto eachother let alone giving them another reason to work up a gob full of spit and share it with the world. Get rid of it all I say!!! Spitting isn't unique to baseball, I see it all the time in youth football and I'm not surprised when you watch an NRL game on TV where you see players take out their mouth guard and toss out a lugie. I feel like marking that spot on the ground with a white chalk outline and saying to the players ... "don't get tackled here". It's just as disgusting there. RE: Dipping
For all you Dippers out there: When I was 16, had a broken nose and spent a couple of days at the Mater Hospital, The 60 yr Old bloke in the bed next to me had half a face, he had throat / mouth cancer from a life time of chewing tobacco. I spoke with him a lot during that time and found out he passed away from throat cancer a few weeks later.Did I learn my lesson? Nah.. I went on to be a smoker for 30+ years but have given up durries now for about 3 years. Enjoy it while you can Dippers.... Dipping is far more dangerous than smoking BTW. O yeah... and if you want to spit baccy juice or seeds or gum all over the field and dugout... come back and clean up your own Cr@p after the game and don't expect the club volunteers to do it for you. END RANT.
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Dipping
Nov 30, 2009 23:51:46 GMT 10
Post by wildpitch23 on Nov 30, 2009 23:51:46 GMT 10
I totally agree with many of these posts, especially RF44 as I have had to sweep up the mess in the dugout after a seed spitting frenzy.....disgusting. The tobacco dipping has to be stopped. We are running junior sport and cannot allow our youngsters to harm their health in this way while we conveniently look the other way. I heard a mother of a 17 year old offender say that there's nothing that can be done as they will be 18 soon and it will then be out of their control. What a cop-out!! The rules state that tobacco is not allowed....simple.
As far as the infectious diseases policy is concerned, a friend of mine that is a health professional told me that the easiest way to be infected by a blood-borne disease (ie HIV, Hepatitis) is through the eyes. So, if people around you are spitting, you'd better shut your eyes because you are more likely to be infected by their disease than by any amount of blood on their shirt. I heard this question asked at an umpires' clinic once, and our top umpires basically said that spitting was a part of the sport and there wasn't much they could do about it.
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Dipping
Dec 1, 2009 16:41:16 GMT 10
Post by QBUA on Dec 1, 2009 16:41:16 GMT 10
Thankyou everyone who has posted their dislike with dipping etc.
I want to clarify some information, I was asked about kids and adults SPITTING, and from memory, I informed the people I was talking too, that an umpire is limited in what they can do with certain circumstances, like spitting. If I personally see a junior imitating the DIPPING ACTIONS, I will certainly have a word to them. If it is SPITTING, I may ask them to stop it.
I feel that it is a club thing, something that a club, from the coaches to the executive should handle as a possible cultural thing in the club or explaning to those who do it, not too, and find out why they do it.
With in the game situation, it is time consuming and difficult to help people understand the infectous diseases policy. Most think it is only in affect if a person is bleeding, or they can see the disease on the person. What about some information on the walls on the club house or even in the dugouts. THINK of it this way, would someone openly spit anything if they are sitting directly next to a sign telling them the dangers their activity possed to others, and not feel some what intimidated. With SPITTING, it depends on the nature of the umpire or people concerned, some experienced umpires or others have no difficulty approaching coaches and players on such matters, it fits within alot of our conversations with others. With inexperienced or shy people, they may say nothing, as it may be preceived the wrong way from coaches etc, and they don't want the possible comflict or dislike. Just to leave it to the umpire is not really the way to handle it. Umpires are taught mainly to umpire the game, not to be social workers, the clubs have alot of people that can handle these things.
With DIPPING, it is not on. As per one of my other postings, we may not see it.
Always happy to hear from you.
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Dipping
Dec 1, 2009 18:00:05 GMT 10
Post by snoochies on Dec 1, 2009 18:00:05 GMT 10
Why don't we all get an American accent while we are at it.
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