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Post by QBUA on Dec 2, 2009 15:16:20 GMT 10
I copied this from another thread.........thanks to ramsrus
Good sportsmanship is when teammates, opponents, coaches, and officials treat each other with respect. Kids learn the basics of sportsmanship from the adults in their lives, especially their parents and their coaches. Kids who see adults behaving in a sportsmanlike way gradually come to understand that the real winners in sports are those who know how to persevere and to behave with dignity — whether they win or lose a game. – kidshealth.org
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Post by baseballparent on Dec 2, 2009 17:14:15 GMT 10
I hope all the baseball umpires within the community read this post
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Post by madmax on Dec 2, 2009 22:33:19 GMT 10
"respect" is earned. it is not given away. too many people today demanding "respect" who certainly have not earned it through their actions (why our society is going down the toilet).
treating people with the minimum deserving of a human being would be a start...
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Post by QBUA on Dec 3, 2009 17:25:21 GMT 10
I posted this because I like it.
I am not asking for respect, and not asking for others also. Why attack me or other umpires, has something happened in the last couple of weeks to have this type of response.
For those who understand what the posting means, I hope you enjoyed reading it.
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Post by bobbybillabong on Dec 3, 2009 21:14:41 GMT 10
Here's my 2c worth. If you start from a position that respect must be 'earned' then what you're actually saying is that no-one gets treated with respect until they've earnt it. Perhaps a better way would be to say that respect is given (not earned) and can be lost - but our start point should always be respect until we know differently.
I read Richo's point as meaning that when we step onto the field/spectator area then our start position is one of respect to each other. And professionalism as a player, coach or umpire means that we maintain the outward appearance of respect even when our private thoughts might be otherwise. In the end the respect we show is not for the individual but for the game, and the way games should be played.
Talking of respect, one thing that disappoints me at any sport is spectators who verbally attack opposition players. Sure, cheer for your team, and perhaps boo the unsportmans-like behaviour of the other team, but show respect for all players as competitors putting on a show for all of us. Sledging from the crowd, or from other players, doesn't seem sporting to me.
The end of my 2c worth.
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Post by 44 on Dec 4, 2009 11:32:50 GMT 10
Here's my 2c worth. If you start from a position that respect must be 'earned' then what you're actually saying is that no-one gets treated with respect until they've earnt it. Perhaps a better way would be to say that respect is given (not earned) and can be lost - but our start point should always be respect until we know differently. I read Richo's point as meaning that when we step onto the field/spectator area then our start position is one of respect to each other. And professionalism as a player, coach or umpire means that we maintain the outward appearance of respect even when our private thoughts might be otherwise. In the end the respect we show is not for the individual but for the game, and the way games should be played. Talking of respect, one thing that disappoints me at any sport is spectators who verbally attack opposition players. Sure, cheer for your team, and perhaps boo the unsportmans-like behaviour of the other team, but show respect for all players as competitors putting on a show for all of us. Sledging from the crowd, or from other players, doesn't seem sporting to me. The end of my 2c worth. I think you just hit a 5 Run Grand Slam BB.........
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Post by bronco on Dec 4, 2009 13:32:09 GMT 10
Talking of respect, one thing that disappoints me at any sport is spectators who verbally attack opposition players. Sure, cheer for your team, and perhaps boo the unsportmans-like behaviour of the other team, but show respect for all players as competitors putting on a show for all of us. Sledging from the crowd, or from other players, doesn't seem sporting to me. The end of my 2c worth. Unless we are playing the Vics, then sledge away! ;D
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Post by QBUA on Dec 4, 2009 16:52:52 GMT 10
Thankyou for your responses. I was looking at the site at the end. kidshealth.
What kids learn today is what they do tomorrow.
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Post by madmax on Dec 4, 2009 23:46:38 GMT 10
why do people take a difference in opinion as an "attack"?
teach the kids that they are owed respect by everyone wherever they go if that's what floats your boat...
can we at least agree that each of us will reap what we respectively sow?
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Post by mstaylor on Dec 5, 2009 3:27:47 GMT 10
I agree respect is earned. What everyone should do is show common courtesy and respect will follow. Treating others civilly will make things go easier and respect will grow. The proplem is lack of respect is easier to grow than true respect. If all the adults,coaches and umpires, even spectators act civilly then the kids will learn the same.
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Post by madmax on Dec 5, 2009 14:58:06 GMT 10
precisely! when I go up to bat the first time, I wish the umpire and catcher "good morning". when the catcher sometimes hands me the previous batter's bat, I say "thank you". that does not mean I "respect" either the catcher or umpire (I certainly do not). doesn't stop all of us from teaching our kids to be civil to each other when we play. you never know, it might rub off on them enough to carry over into "normal life".
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Post by puff on Dec 5, 2009 15:27:42 GMT 10
Madmax, I was always taught to respect your opponent. I take it from your posts that you have no respect for any opposition player or umpire. How can you learn anything from playing against better opposition if you have no respect for them? How is this approach working in your baseball career?
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Post by madmax on Dec 6, 2009 15:39:48 GMT 10
thanks, mate! the snide remark is exactly what I am talking about. feel big, do you? putting other people down? I suppose you are the classic example of a "respectful" player our kids are supposed to learn from?
however, I will do you the "courtesy" [see above] of a response: it's working fine for me, thanks for asking.
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Post by mstaylor on Dec 6, 2009 16:31:28 GMT 10
Puff: You seem to be unusually obtuse for some reason. Every opponent is worthy of respect but in any area of life respect must be earned. I believe if you are civil and play in a sportmanlike manner you will be given a certain amount of respect. If you show decent skills then you will recieve more respect. If you act in a classy manner, boom, more respect. I don't see the confusion. I will always start in a civil and courtious manner, show very strong rules knowledge and hopefully good judgment and that should earn me respect as an umpire.
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Post by puff on Dec 6, 2009 17:19:42 GMT 10
thanks, mate! the snide remark is exactly what I am talking about. feel big, do you? putting other people down? I suppose you are the classic example of a "respectful" player our kids are supposed to learn from? however, I will do you the "courtesy" [see above] of a response: it's working fine for me, thanks for asking. Madmax, now you have confused me. You're quote above says you certainly do not respect the catcher or umpire. I thought we were taught to respect the opposition and people in authority. 1 part of your arguement says we should set a good example to young kids which they take over to other parts of life but then you say the opposite when you have your 1st at bat in a game.
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